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Why you should stay away from dubplates.com and Natural Affair Sound

Most people dealing with reggae or jungle knows about the term dubplate, however it is used in a few different ways. To keep it short, a dubplate is the acetate disk cut with a track on it, usually an unreleased tune which the DJ could try out in a show before a release – while a dubplate special became the term for getting a singer or MC to re-voice the song especially for you, so you had something original to play out, or even use in a soundclash. This article is about the latter.

For many years now, dubplate specials have become big business, for studio owners as well as the singers themselves, who have a good way of getting extra income next to shows and releases. Now, if you live in Jamaica, it’s probably easy to walk down to your local studio and make a deal directly with the artists, but for all the soundsystems in Europe, Asia or America, the studio middleman (the “link”) has been the way to go.

A big problem in the dubplate business has been to identify what are “genuine” links – as in who doesn’t steal your money, and who can you trust. Most of these scammers are quickly identified and rooted out of the business. However, one of these well-known scammer links has been at it for over 10 years now, and is still in “business”. I am talking about dubplates.com.

Now this site looks like a regular webshop, and it is being well maintained by the owner (a UK resident named Peter Joyce) – so it appears very legit. However, a quick google search on the site will show you that alot of people have sent money to these people and never got what they asked for. After the first complaints came online around 2003, the owner of the site tried to defend their position. However, after over 10 years of having people reporting theft from dubplates.com, it is getting harder and harder for them to make any valid defense.

Here is just a few mentions from people around the world, on dubplates.com:

“I have call him 3-4 times and like a real thief he sounded very trustful with good excuses ! Like u say rootsman he offered at that time only hi price artists like wayne, ele ,sean ,shabba , spear, killa….! Now i realize why!” (dancehallreggae.com, 2003)
“DO NOT USE DUBPLATES.COM !!!! HE IS A THIEF AND A FRAUD!!! HE RIPPED US OFF – THE TUNES WE GOT WERE THE WRONG ONES AND SOUNDED LIKE ****, AND HE STILL OWES US MONEY AFTER ALMOST TWO YEARS!!!” (bloodandfire.co.uk, 2006)
“our crew got out and out taken for 700$ by dubplates.com, who took our money 5 months ago for 2 buju specials and wont even return our emails.” (futureproducers.com, 2004)

Reports from the last few years tell the same story.

How much Peter Joyce is a scammer
100%

Natural Affair Sound LogoBut who are the people behind dubplates.com?

The owner of the site is named Peter Joyce, also known as “Junior P” from Telford UK, and he is a member of Natural Affair Sound. The last few years they have turned up in different soundclashes, which wouldn’t be a problem unless it is possible that many of their own dubplate specials are paid for by stolen money. The fact that promoters are booking this soundsystem shows that they either don’t know or don’t care about their shady background. My point of view is that this soundsystem should be banned from all shows worldwide, to show it is not acceptible to scam like they have been doing.

Have you been scammed by dubplates.com? Their track record of not delivering purchased services is in fact registered with british Trading Standards, and your best way to get your money back, or some service at all, is to contact them directly:

Telford & Wrekin Council Trading Standards, Darby House, Lawn Central, Telford TF3 4JA. Telephone: 08454 04 05 06 (Consumer Advice) – Tel: 01952 381999 (Business Advice & Reception) Fax: 01952 381993 Electronic Mail: tradingstandards@telford.gov.uk

Visit their website for more information.

Don’t believe this can be true? Don’t take my word for it. Make a few quick google searches, or make a keyword search on dancehallreggae.com forums and find out for yourself – just don’t find out by sending your money that way.

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